Beyond Moderation and White-Knuckling | Where Are They Now? - Calley | EP 902

This Naked Mind Podcast

Annie Grace

Self-improvement, Education

4.7 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2026

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

What is gray area drinking for women – and what happens when “drink less” slowly turns into “I don’t even want this anymore”? In this Where Are They Now conversation, Calley returns after first appearing on the podcast in October 2019 to share what seven years alcohol-free really looks like. Talking with Coach Hayley, she reflects on motherhood, moving, social discomfort, and the quiet but powerful shift from worrying about what was in her glass to simply living free. It’s an honest, encouraging look at what changes when curiosity replaces shame and alcohol stops taking up so much space in your mind. Calley and Hayley discuss: Motherhood, moving, and realizing wine was taking up more space than she wanted What is gray area drinking for women—and why curiosity matters before things feel “serious enough.” From social discomfort to feeling fully at home in her alcohol-free skin Honest conversations with kids about alcohol, pressure, and awareness Why community, compassion, and knowledge matter more than shame How freedom from alcohol opened the door to deeper healing around sugar, caffeine, and self-trust And more on confidence, connection, and building a life that feels good without alcohol Episode links: thisnakedmindapp.com Related Episodes: Naked Life Story – Calley | EP 219 - https://thisnakedmind.com/ep-219-naked-life-story-calley-2-2/ How are alcohol cravings similar to sugar? | Reader Question | EP 516 - https://thisnakedmind.com/ep-516-reader-question-how-are-alcohol-cravings-similar-to-sugar/ Gray Area Drinking with Jolene Park | Naked Life Story | EP 47 - https://thisnakedmind.com/ep-47-naked-life-story-jolene-park/ Ready to take the next step on your journey? Visit https://learn.thisnakedmind.com/podcast-resources for free resources, programs, and more. Until next week, stay curious! This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp, Green Chef, OSEA, Quince, and Shopify. BetterHelp: BetterHelp is offering our listeners 10% off at betterhelp.com/nakedmind Green Chef: Green Chef is offering 50% off your first month, then 20% off for two months at greenchef.com/nakedmind use code NAKEDMIND. OSEA: Get 10% off of your first order sitewide with code NAKEDMIND at OSEAMalibu.com Quince: get free shipping and 365-day returns at quince.com/naked Shopify: Sign up for $1 month trial at shopify.com/mind

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0:00.0	You're listening to This Naked Mind with Annie Grace.
0:10.9	Welcome, Callie to Where Are They Now? And thank you so much for joining me.
0:18.4	Your story has inspired so many. Like I just said to you,
0:21.7	there's so many golden nuggets of wisdom. And I'm going to open up the space for you to introduce
0:27.0	yourself, recap some of your story. And we're just really, really excited to catch up with you from
0:32.1	when you originally recorded, you're about six months alcohol free. And now where are we?
0:37.3	Well, now I i it was 2018 in
0:40.0	october it was the week before halloween and so that was 2018 that was seven years ago which
0:47.0	i didn't realize it had been seven years i thought maybe five and then i was like no that's seven
0:51.8	so it's been seven years since I encountered Annie's book.
0:56.9	And yeah, so at that point, I was 30, let's see, I was turning 39. I had three kids.
1:04.4	My daughter at that point was two and I had two boys. And I had gone from working full time to being a stay-at-home mom. And that was a
1:13.9	tough transition for me. And we'd also moved to a new city. But all that to not even to say that
1:20.2	those were the reasons, but I found myself drinking more and more alcohol. And you finally get to
1:26.5	this point. You're like like I feel like I drink more
1:28.2	than I want to and I would like to drink less and that's where you realize it's really hard to drink
1:34.5	less. I would look at the guidelines and it would I can't remember. I think it might say one drink a day
1:39.8	for a email. So seven drinks a week and I'm like, oh no no I'm having a hard time staying under seven drinks I mean
1:45.6	honestly if I was going to drink wine I wanted to drink almost the whole bottle myself and I'm like
1:50.6	I was horrified at that it was just one of those things where like I tried to moderate and found
1:56.8	that the desire was even stronger you know I was I was in a battle and I realized I was actually in a battle. I didn't want to admit that to myself, but I do remember that fall, finally admitting it to myself and kind of writing it in one of my prayer journals that I think this is an issue, and I don't want to have a problem. I don't want to have a problem. So all that to say is I wasn't
2:17.5	really looking for the solution, but I remember I was kind of going through YouTube videos looking for
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