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Welcome to All-Worth's Money Matters, Scott Hanson.

Pat McLean is on his final week of vacation, so he'll be back next week.

But again, we've got Mark Shone joining us.

I've got such good feedback after the first two episodes that Mark did with us that I thought would have them on the third one here with a past council.

Let's do it again.

Yeah.

And also later in the program, I've got an interview with Simone Devaney talking about how to deal with complex trusts.

So if you have a trust, maybe even just a living trust, we're she going to go over some of the basis of trust and then some of the more complexities when they might make sense.

So I think you'll find it really helpful.

I enjoyed the conversation I had with Simone at you as well. So I think you'll find it really helpful. I enjoyed the

conversations I had with someone at you as well. So but with Mark, uh, I want to talk with Mark,

with you, Mark, um, thanks for again for joining us today about like moving beyond the index

and index funds is what I mean by that so if you think about uh you've been in

the industry as about as long as I have been so 30 plus years I'm still saying I've been in it since out

of college I've been in this industry a long time and when I first got started in the industry it was

all these actively managed mutual funds and your job is to pick the best mutual fund or whatever. But everything's moved to indexing. The vast majority of individual

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