Welcome to the New York Times Popcast, your master blaster of music news and criticism.

I am your host, John Caramonica.

Couldn't get enough Beyonce.

Couldn't get enough Renaissance.

A couple of weeks ago, we did our staff roundtable right after the album came out.

But the discourse keeps discoursing.

So I would like to do kind of a Beyonce speed round where we bring in folks who have been writing about the record thinking about the record and talk about some of the themes.

We're not going to necessarily do criticism.

We're not going to like review or talk about the kind of tiny details of the record.

But we are going to talk about some of the bigger themes that the rollout and the record itself brought up.

And so we've got four folks coming through today.

Naim Akakran is going to be here talking about the ethics of crediting.

Jason P. Frank is going to talk about Kevin Avions.

Kiana Nichols is going to talk about the politics of engaging with queer music communities.

A pop star of Beyonce's level doing that.

And then Patrick Sandberger is going to come and talk about the long history of how pop and dance music have engaged with each other.

My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and they're like, it's better than yours, Dan Wright.

It's better than yours, I could teach you.

But I have to charge my milkshake, brings all the boys to the yard and they're like, it's better than yours, Dan Wright.

It's better than yours, I could teach you, but I have to judge.

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