lot of talk these days about what stocks belong in your portfolio. In Kim's absence this week,

instead of your typical Wall Street lunch, we're going to give you two conversations that we

had recently on our investing experts podcast, one with Ryan Williams and one with dividend growth

investing. Both of those investors focus on the dividend stocks, and we get

into why those may make sense for investors, not just at this time, but maybe all time. Enjoy the

conversations. Let us know what you think. There's a type of dividend stocker ETF that we talk about called yield traps.

And essentially, I mean, these yield traps are exactly what they sound like.

They're companies or ETFs that come with high starting yields.

Typically, it's 11, 12, 15, sometimes even higher percentages, but very juicy and very tempting

dividend yields.

But you've got to look beyond just the dividend yield.

And that's where you've got to look at the dividend history.

And so these yield traps, while they may have these high starting yields, and I'll give you

some concrete examples in a moment, if you look at the dividend history on these companies or

ETFs, the dividend per share is going down over time.

So if you hop on seeking alpha, search AGNC or search ORC, that's Orchid Island Capital

or AGNC Investment Corp, look at the dividend history on

those and you'll know what I'm talking about. Over time, if you look at the last 10 years,

the dividend per share is, I think in both of their cases, has been cut in more than half. So yeah,

you might have a high starting yield and 10 years ago you might have had a high starting yield,

but over time, your cash flow returns with those companies are going down and those

are the exact opposite types of things that you want to invest in you want to see that going up

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