Welcome to Betrayal Trauma Recovery. This is Anne. I have Lacey with me today. She's the founder and CEO of Women United Recovery Coalition.

The acronym is W-U-R-C. It's an organization dedicated to raising awareness of female pornography addiction,

how fantasy feeds sex-based compulsions, and women's unique recovery needs.

She's been working with women in addiction and self-destructive, compulsive behavior since 2000.

And as an author, mentor, coach, and speaker, Lacey focuses on releasing perfectionism in recovery while learning honesty and

personal accountability.

She's written articles and blogs for numerous magazines, Women's Recovery Sites,

in the movement toward ending exploitation and fighting the harms of pornography.

As a former Hintai, which is sexualized anime, user, and a relationship and love addict,

Lacey has seen firsthand the destructive patterns fantasy can cause

individuals and families. She also knows from personal experience that fantasy is the root of the

sex addiction tree. Her hope is to better inform people

about the very vulnerable population of women

and girls trapped in their own pornography usage

and fantasy worlds and their compulsive sexual or relationship

behaviors.

So welcome Lacey.

Hey Anne, I'm glad to be here.

We've met some of the anti-pronography movement events and I'm grateful for the work that Lacey does.

So what is Women United Recovery Coalition and why did you start it?

Women United actually came out of my research at UVU and based on my own experience.

So like you had mentioned, I used Hentai as a young woman, and it really impacted my life,

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