Bethell captains & Baker eyes England debut
Test Match Special
BBC
4.4 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 17 August 2025
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
Henry Moeran is alongside Ashes winning bowler Steven Finn and former England batter Michael Carberry to discuss the decision to make 22-year-old Jacob Bethell captain for England's T20 series in Ireland in September. Bethell gives his reaction to receiving the call from Brendon McCullum. Plus, Sonny Baker speaks to the BBC's Matt Henry about getting his first England T20 call-up for both series against South Africa and Ireland. Steven Finn tells Henry what it's like entering the side as a young fast bowler.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:04.9 | You're listening to the TMS podcast from BBC Radio 5 Live. |
| 0:10.7 | Hello, I'm Henry Moran. |
| 0:12.4 | Welcome to the Test Match Special podcast from behind the scenes at Edgeburston, |
| 0:16.7 | where the TMS team have been covering the Birmingham Phoenix fixtures against the London spirit. |
| 0:21.7 | But there's been a lot of cricketing conversation this week away from the 100 around the England's White Ball Squad announcement. |
| 0:28.5 | With Jacob Bethel sets becoming the youngest captain as he leads England to Ireland for three T20 matches. |
| 0:34.8 | We'll be hearing soon from Bethel as well as Sunny Baker the fast bowler who's been called |
| 0:39.3 | up for the White Ball Squad to face |
| 0:41.4 | both South Africa and Ireland |
| 0:43.2 | across September. You're listening |
| 0:45.4 | to the TMS podcast |
| 0:46.9 | from BBC Radio 5 |
| 0:49.2 | Live. Well I'm alongside Stephen |
| 0:51.3 | Finn and Michael Carberry. Hello to you |
| 0:53.4 | both. I'm going to get your thoughts on Bethel being named captain shortly. But first, let's hear from the 21-year-old. Who's been speaking to Test Match specials, Nick Eshragani? Just got a call from Badz this morning. Yeah, and obviously great news to hear. Feelings with kind of pride at first and then, yeah, it's not |
| 1:11.3 | really sunk in yet. It's only been a few hours. I'm sure it was thinking more when we get |
| 1:15.5 | over to Ireland and start forming the team properly. Is that something that you've spoken to |
| 1:20.1 | Baz or any of the senior of England hierarchy about before, about leadership? Not a huge amount. |
| 1:26.7 | I think I do try and lead by example, |
| 1:32.1 | but obviously coming into the team as a youngster, |
| 1:34.6 | you sometimes feel like it doesn't really have much impact, |
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