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The Business of Fashion Podcast

Bethann Hardison: Model, Mother, Agent and Advocate

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Bethann is a former model, agent, and advocate who has been agitating for a more inclusive fashion industry for more than half a century.


Bethann launched her own modelling agency in 1984, pushing for representation and equal pay for Black and ethnic minority models. Meanwhile In her personal life, she was a working mom, and a woman that in her own words, “has no sense of retirement in her DNA.”


"When I say racial diversity, I mean I want to still see a redhead. I don’t want an all-Black anything,” Hardison says. “I want to make sure our world remains completely integrated. That’s the most important thing.”


This week on the BoF Podcast, we revisit conversation from BoF VOICES 2024 where Bethann spoke with London-based British-Jamaican designer Bianca Saunders about her inspiring career journey and the state of the fashion industry today. 



Key Insights: 


  • Hardison’s approach to diversity in the fashion industry was intentional from the start By strategically building an agency that mirrored the diversity of the world around her, Hardison disrupted the norms of a predominantly white industry. “I didn’t want to have a Black model agency,” she says. “I think it's very important when you have to compete, you have to compete against the people who are running it.” Her decision to compete directly with white agencies allowed her to challenge systemic biases from within, making representation a matter of strategy, not tokenism.


  • For much of her career, Hardison worked tirelessly without stopping to reflect on her impact: “When people come up to me and say, ‘Thank you so much. I love you. You’re such an icon,’ … When you’re doing the work, you don’t think of it as significant. You just want to get things done.” This humility is paired with a newfound appreciation for her legacy, which she gained while working on the documentary Invisible Beauty. “When I decided to make the film about me and let the story be told, I finally realised the significance of what I’ve done.” 


  • Hardison’s vision of diversity extends beyond racial representation. She tells BoF she advocates for a truly inclusive world and challenges the concept of homogeneity in all forms to ensure that diversity remains expansive and reflective of the world’s richness. “The most important thing to me is to make sure our world remains completely integrated,” she says. “I don’t want an all-Black anything; I want to see redheads, I want to see diversity everywhere.”  


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0:00.0

Hi, this is Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Business of Fashion. Welcome to the

0:09.6

Bof podcast. It's Friday, January 10th. Bethan Hardison is a former model, agent, and advocate

0:17.5

who has been agitating for a more inclusive fashion industry for more than half a century.

0:24.2

Bethan launched her own modeling agency in 1984, pushing for representation and equal pay for

0:31.4

black and ethnic minority models. Meanwhile, in her personal life, she was a working mom and a woman that in her own words has no sense of retirement in her DNA.

0:43.5

I just don't like the injustices of anything.

0:46.0

But I do believe in diversity.

0:47.4

When I say racial diversity, I mean, I want to make sure I still see a redhead and I still want to make sure I see a...

0:52.5

I don't want to make an all-black anything.

0:54.8

I want to make sure that our world remains completely integrated.

0:59.6

And that's the most important thing to me.

1:01.8

This week on the BOF podcast, we revisit a conversation from BOF Voices 2024, where Bethan

1:09.3

spoke with the London-based British Jamaican designer Bianca

1:12.9

Saunders about her inspiring career journey and the state of the fashion industry today.

1:19.5

Here's Bethann Hardison with Bianca Saunders on the B.OF podcast.

1:34.3

Thank you. on the B-OF podcast. So yeah, thank you, Bethann for asking me to do this.

1:36.9

It's actually so incredible to be with some,

1:39.5

that's actually a legend in this industry

1:41.3

and create you so much space for people.

1:43.7

And I guess we should start from the beginning.

1:45.5

I guess how did you start in modelling and also becoming advocate and what was difference in

1:51.2

changing that?

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