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#Bestof2022: Can the EU become a State? Stanley Pignal @spignal, @TheEconomist. Charlemagne, The Economist; (Originally posted Jan 11,, 2022)

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#Bestof2022: Can the EU become a State? Stanley Pignal @spignal, @TheEconomist. Charlemagne, The Economist; (Originally posted Jan 11,, 2022)

https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/01/08/the-return-of-big-government-sparks-questions-for-europe

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0:00.0

This is CBS, I am the world. I'm John Bachelor. Europe, the European Union, 27 sovereign powers

0:12.2

working together at least since the late 20th century. Stanley Pinyal helps me to understand

0:19.0

the European Union's ambitions now here in the 21st century. And asking the question, is

0:25.5

is Europe a state can it function as a state with a capital in Brussels, sometimes in

0:32.1

Strasbourg? Stanley is also Charlemagne. This is a column continued in the Economist magazine

0:39.8

for many decades. And it is my window on the European Union. Stanley, a very good day to

0:46.8

you and a good year, the ambition to be a state. The European Union expresses itself in many

0:53.7

voices. Does it have a voice that is the state voice? Good day to you. Good day. The EU has many

1:01.6

of the trappings of a state. It has a flag, it has a capital in Brussels, it has a parliament,

1:08.8

it has political institutions. But what it doesn't have is that sort of country status that a place

1:16.1

like America has the United States or India or even other big federated states. And the reasons

1:24.8

for that, obviously, a historical Europe is in a process of integration but started very much with

1:30.6

27 now 27 different members who agree to do some things together. But there are still very many

1:37.2

things that they like to keep for themselves. So when it comes to regulating global business,

1:42.5

for example, they might all choose to do it together. When it comes to having a currency,

1:46.5

the euro, many of them do it together, not not all 27. But there are other things like foreign

1:51.3

affairs or social spending or education in which the each member state is still jealously guarding

2:00.4

that core competence. And the history of Europe, really since the Second World War, has been

2:07.3

the construction of this super state as some detractors call it and the speed and the willingness

2:15.4

that people have to move towards a single federal government federal state.

2:21.4

What I learned from the book Stanley is Master of Treaty, late 20th century 1991, Euro 1999,

2:29.3

late 20th century. And here we are now two decades, three into three decades later. And Europe

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