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which may not be realized. I'm John Batsch, Hotel Mars, David Livingston, Dr. Space, the Space Show, and we're very pleased to be speaking with Daniel Suarez, a novelist of science that for now is taking what we have

here on Earth in hardware and software and projecting them into Earth orbit, Cis Lunar Orbit, the solar system for

prosperity. Prosperity of course brings competition. We've talked about the

hardware, the spin gravity Station, the SPS Alpha Mark 3 solar power satellite,

a mining of Regolith, the software.

We have the Outer Space Treaty, which is a product of the Cold War,

in 1967. We have the Moon Treaty, and now we have the Artemis Accords.

None of these, to my knowledge, exactly fit the circumstances that Daniel is very convincingly presenting.

Private enterprise, in competition with state enterprise, that would be the

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