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This is CBSI in the world. Gordon Chang,

at Gordon G Chang is here with me and we're very pleased to welcome our colleague of many years,

Bunsheng Saring, Vice President of the International Campaign for Tibet.

The website is savetabet.org. Gordon is wonderful to speak to Bunsheng again.

We've spent much time with him during the Olympics in 2008,

when the protest was clear that China was abusing,

the Communist Party was abusing Tibet.

So, what is your question for Bunsheng? I welcome him with open arms, Gordon.

Thanks, John. Bunsheng, after his holiness, the Dalai Lama,

had to flee Tibet. He settled into India,

and that is where he is now in Darab,

Salah, high in the Himalayas.

And we have the Tibetan exile community around him.

But there's always been a question about the relationship between his holiness and New Delhi.

Where do we stand on this?

Gordon, on the issue of the relationship between the Indian people in government

and his own Dalai Lama and the Tibetan people, we need to understand two things.

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