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I'm John Bachelor. This is the new John Bachelor show, CBS Audio Network.

I welcome my colleague of many years, Terry Anderson of the Hooper Institution.

Here to comment, not only on his new book,

Recommended, Adapt and Be Adapt, about the years and centuries ahead of us

in the event of climate change significance,

but also another new book that comes to our attention quite spontaneously at the same time.

Thanks to Holman Jenkins, the distinguished columnist for the Wall Street Journal,

featuring a book by Stephen Kunen, who was a official in the Obama Energy Department,

who is now publishing a book quite separate from the Obama Energy Department,

making similar recommendations, actually exactly the same recommendations that Terry's book makes.

These are independent actors. I can attest to that because I was flabbergasted to read

at Holman Jenkins' column right after talking to Terry. Terry, a very good evening to you.

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