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You hear the bubbles in the glass calling out.

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they seem. A bit like me. I'm not Carlos from Acoruna. I'm Charles from Cambridge. I'm John Basher show.

I'm John Baster show.

I'm John Baster show. Professor Richard Epstein is here and we are discussing the HR 5, the Equality Act of 2021, which has already passed the House of Representatives by a comfortable well, given how close things

are, a comfortable margin of 224 to 206, is now before the Senate.

At the same time, a man by the name of Jack Phillips, he's been in the news these last years, he owns a cake shop in Colorado.

And I thought at this point that this controversy was settled.

However, Richard brings in one more time the look at the masterpiece cake shop

because if I follow Richard's case correctly, HR 5 would mean that Mr. Phillips is in violation of the law.

What is the masterpiece cake shop law controversy, Richard, and does H.R. 5 reverse it?

Well, I mean, it's all up in the air, but the controversy is clear.

This was not a case having to deal with federal laws that had to do with the enforcement of the

human rights of civil rights laws as they existed in Colorado and Colorado

formed something called the Colorado Civil Rights Commission to adjudicate these cases.

And what happens with these commissions is they tend to be stacked and staffed with people who are very

strong advocates, a very strong civil rights position.

Jack Phillips is a devout and religious Christian who

essentially will not make a cake which contains a message which he regards

to be inconsistent with his political beliefs.

It's not just about same sex marriage,

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