Best Voyages from the Rocket 2025 Part 3
Planet Normal
Louisa Wells
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🗓️ 27 August 2025
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Summer is coming to an end on Planet Normal! So in our final installment of our "best of the rocket" series, our co-pilots take a look back at another two of their most explosive voyages on the rocket of right thinking from the year so far.
In May, after Keir Starmer's EU 'reset', Allison and Liam invited Lord David Frost on to the rocket. The former diplomat and Boris Johnson's chief Brexit negotiator, now a Conservative peer, discussed Starmer's efforts to bring post-Brexit Britain closer to the EU.
Also in May, Liam spoke to Andrew Doyle, playwright, journalist, satirist, and creator of social media star Titania McGrath. Andrew, who recently published The End of Woke, discussed why he'd returned to the "culture wars" after vowing his previous book, The New Puritans, would be his last word on the subject.
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| 0:00.0 | The Telegraph |
| 0:05.0 | Five, four, three, two, two, one. |
| 0:20.0 | We have left off. Two, one. |
| 0:24.7 | We have left off. |
| 0:29.9 | Welcome to Planet Normal, the Telegraph podcast with Alison Pearson. |
| 0:30.8 | Hello. |
| 0:32.6 | And me, Liam Halligan. |
| 0:35.7 | Co-pilot Pearson and I are on our summer break. |
| 0:38.6 | But to help keep you sane, dear Planet Normal citizens, |
| 0:42.2 | we're bringing you some of our favourite interviews from this year's archive. |
| 0:45.5 | The discussions we've had on this are Rocket of Right Thinking, |
| 0:48.0 | our flying refuge of reasoned views. |
| 0:51.5 | In May, after Kirstarmer's EU reset, we invited Planet Normal's stowaway Lord David Frost onto the rocket. |
| 0:56.4 | The former diplomat turned Boris Johnson's chief Brexit negotiator now sits as a conservative in the House of Lords. |
| 1:02.9 | With a degree from Oxford in French and history, David Frost had a long foreign office career, |
| 1:08.3 | becoming ambassador to Denmark and then private secretary to the head of the |
| 1:11.9 | diplomatic service. He also served in the political trenches during the Brexit wars, of course, |
| 1:17.6 | after the 2016 vote, as plenty of MPs, including some Tories, tried to reverse the referendum |
| 1:23.6 | result. Lord Frost has since emerged as a leading thinker and power broker as the |
| 1:29.3 | Tories try to reinvent themselves. And we started by asking him what he thought of Keir Starmer's |
| 1:35.0 | efforts to bring post-Brexit Britain back into the orbit of the EU. |
| 1:41.1 | David, it's great to have you back with us here on Planet Normal. Great to be here. |
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