It starts in November.

Christmas catch up. Let's do diaries.

Oh, that clashes with my work, do.

That's the day of the nativity.

We're booked to see Santa.

We're out picking a tree.

There's in-laws to visit, pantomimes to see.

I've got to write a thousand Christmas cards.

Until, somehow, we're here.

Four friends, having our Costa Christmas catch-up.

We should do this more often.

Get together this Christmas around the festive nutcracker range at Costa.

Costa Coffee.

The Bert Show.

Sometimes we're just fragile little boys.

Fragile little emotional voice.

So how can women make men feel more emotionally safe if that is even the goal?

Yeah, I'm not known for wanting men to feel safe ever, but I do feel like we talk about how women have the need to feel emotionally and physically safe on this show a lot.

And so when I came across this clip from one of my favorite podcasts, the bio files,

I thought it'd be a good opportunity to talk about it.

Would you say if you were ranking things that you were, most women are looking for in a man?

Would you say providing safety is number one most of the time i think if they were making a list it

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