And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN Audio, the Axfiles, with

your host, David Axelrod.

Continuing to mix in some vintage Axfiles episodes, here's one from 2018 with Jose Andres,

the renowned chef whose heroic efforts to feed the hungry in the wake of natural disasters

has earned him much deserved to claim more important and meaningful than even his world-class

restaurants.

He's a great and interesting man.

He's the founder of the World Central Kitchen, not-for-profit relief organization.

Active right now in several American cities in the wake of COVID-19.

Here's my conversation with Jose Andres.

Jose Andres, so good to see you, my friend.

You know, this is what we know about you.

You have a sense of justice.

You have a sense of fairness.

You have a sense of obligation to help people, but it all began with a sense of smell.

That's what I've learned.

It back in the day, in Northern Spain.

So let's start there.

And how you became so enamored of cooking.

Maybe the super thrill to be here.

Do you have many chefs coming to this?

You know what?

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