Welcome to the Strong Women podcast, where we explore the beautifully diverse ways God invites and equips women to participate in his story.

We're here to encourage one another as we step out of the shallow definitions of what it means to be a woman

and into the flourishing life that comes when we walk out our design. I'm your host Sarah Stone Street.

I'm so glad you're here. Welcome back to the Strong Women Podcast. This week, I've reached back

for another treasure of a conversation

that Aaron Cuncle and I had with Jay Warner Wallace really focused around his book a person

of interest. And one of the things that Aaron and I wanted to talk to him about came from the

verse in Galatians. Galatians 4, verse 4. It says, but when the fullness of time

had come, God sent forth his son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were

under the law so that we might receive adoption as sons. We wanted to kind of dive into that. What does it mean the fullness of time?

Like, it was at the right time that God sent his son into the world. What does that mean?

So we asked Jay Warner Wallace some of those questions. And Jay Warner Wallace is so fun to talk to and he has so much

knowledge about so many things and so we went several different directions in this conversation

but one of those was what does it mean the fullness of time so I hope you enjoy this conversation

you might be thinking, why would you have an apologist on your Christmas episode? Well, Jim has come out with a new book called A Person of

Interest, Why Jesus Still Matters in a world that rejects the Bible. And Sarah and I were thinking about what we wanted to

talk about for a Christmas episode, and why not talk about this idea that what we celebrate

on Christmas actually happened? It's a historical event that Christianity claims is true, that this actually happened. It's a historical event that Christianity claims is true, that this actually happened

2,000 years ago. Now, we don't claim it happened on December 25th, but that's the day we celebrate.

Another thing that I was thinking about, too, is in one of our episodes with Christopher West that a lot of you

listeners have listened to and if you haven't you need to go back and listen to that interview

but Christopher West kept saying to us if Christmas is real then da da da da da da then there were implications to that

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