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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Best of: N.K. Jemisin

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2018

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

This is the most fun I’ve ever had on a podcast. Nora Jemisin — better known by her pen name, N.K. Jemisin — won the Hugo Award for best novel this year for the third year in a row. No one had ever done that before. Jemisin is also the first author to have every book in a single series — her Broken Earth trilogy — win the Hugo for best novel, and the first black author to win a Hugo for best novel. She’s a badass. But what made this episode such a delight is it isn’t just a conversation. It’s a demonstration. Here, Jemisin takes me through the way she builds new worlds, and in doing, she offers a master class on how to think more rigorously, clearly, and thoroughly about our own world. Don’t miss it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:24.0

Revealing the performance for writers is a necessity for them because you've got to be able to see behind the curtain in order to write the curtain.

0:37.0

So for writers, they don't have the luxury of living with the performance or just the mask over a thing.

0:44.0

You've got to understand the inner workings of people.

0:54.0

Hello, and welcome to The Wizard of Client, show on the Vox Media Podcast Network.

1:01.0

It's a holiday. And during the holidays, I'm trying to take a little bit of holiday, take a little bit of quiet, get some other things done, see some family.

1:08.0

So I'm putting up some of my favorite shows from the past couple of years.

1:12.0

This one I actually did just a couple of months ago, but I don't know. I loved it.

1:16.0

This was one of the ones where I walked in not quite knowing how the conversation would go.

1:21.0

And I don't think I have ever enjoyed a single one of these more.

1:25.0

This was my conversation with the remarkable science fiction and fantasy writer, N.K. Jemisin.

1:30.0

She's awesome. She just won her third Hugo Award for Best Novel in a Row.

1:36.0

No one has ever done that before. She was the first African-American novelist to ever win the Hugo for Best Novel.

1:42.0

She's the first person at all to win three of them in a row. She won them for the Broken Earth Trilogy.

1:47.0

And I should say the way I got turned on to her work was actually one of you. I got emails.

1:52.0

And actually when I look back, I'd gotten a couple of emails, but one in particular said, you know, you may like this Broken Earth Trilogy.

1:57.0

You may want to check out this author, N.K. Jemisin.

2:00.0

And I did and I could not stop. The books are so good. They deal with some of the hardest and most searing questions I've ever seen in fantasy work.

2:09.0

Her other books are great. The inheritance trilogy is amazing. So I was a complete fanboy when I contacted her for an interview.

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