BEST OF: Hal Brands on Potential of Future Conflict with China
Intelligence Matters
CBS News
4.6 • 3.3K Ratings
🗓️ 28 December 2022
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
In this Best of episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell spoke with Hal Brands, Henry A. Kissinger Distinguished Professor of Global Affairs at the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies and author of the new book, Danger Zone: The Coming Conflict with China, about China's economic, political and demographic trajectory and the percolating risk of conflict with Beijing in the coming years. Brands explains why he believes China, rather than being on the rise, is peaking as a global power and as a result may engage in more destabilizing behavior. Brands and Morell explore how certain external tailwinds - which once propelled China's rise - have become headwinds, and may be driving President Xi Jinping's tightening grip on political power. They also discuss the effect of Speaker Pelosi's visit to Taipei, different scenarios and timelines for a possible Chinese invasion of Taiwan, as well as how the conflict in Ukraine may - or may not - affect Xi's calculus. This episode was originally released in August 2022.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Michael Morel and this is an intelligence matters best of episode for 2022. |
| 0:06.5 | Hal Brands is a professor of global affairs at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International |
| 0:11.0 | Studies and a former Pentagon official. |
| 0:13.3 | In our conversation with Hal in August, we discussed the view that China is no longer a rising |
| 0:19.0 | power relative to the United States, but rather a peaking power and why that is a most dangerous |
| 0:24.9 | thing. |
| 0:25.9 | Back of the replay of that episode with Hal after a quick break. |
| 0:56.9 | Welcome to Chip and Dale's an original series streaming January 11th exclusive on Disney |
| 1:01.9 | Plus, 18 plus subscription required TZZ's applied. |
| 1:04.9 | This is the takeout with Major Garrett. |
| 1:08.3 | Dr. Anthony Fauci is our special guest. |
| 1:10.0 | Elon Musk says he'll release Fauci files on Twitter. |
| 1:14.0 | What are your concerns if any about the Fauci files on Twitter? |
| 1:17.5 | Well, A, no concerns and B, I have no idea what he's talking about. |
| 1:20.7 | Musk also said that you should be prosecuted. |
| 1:23.0 | Major, I don't have a clue of what he's talking about. |
| 1:25.1 | Anything you want to personally say to Elon Musk? |
| 1:27.1 | No, I have nothing to say to him. |
| 1:28.8 | For more from this week's conversation, follow the takeout with Major Garrett on Apple |
| 1:33.1 | Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 1:39.4 | So Hal, welcome back to Intelligence Matters. |
| 1:42.0 | It's great to have you on the show again. |
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