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So Jackie, the big political news of the week, I think I can safely say, was Anne Whittickham coming second

in Celebrity Big Brother on Friday? A bit of a turn-up for the books? Well, I have to own up, Ian,

to, although I watched it when you forced me to watch it that once, my watching has not continued.

But I'm very disappointed because you were her campaign manager, weren't you? I mean,

you were campaigning, you were on the stump for her, you were drumming up support for her.

So I'm afraid once again, you've succeeded in losing an election. I think coming runner-up for

Amwardicam in that was quite an achievement and bear in mind of course that it was a

Tory that won the jungle program as well so it shows that Tories can win election still yeah but

she didn't win did she you're sounding like a Corbinista she didn't win damien green i know how controversial that police raid was 10 years ago,

because obviously I was Home Secretary at the time.

Well, tell us exactly what happened there.

What was your first involvement in it?

Well, we'd had a, it became obvious over a period of months

that somebody very much at the centre of the home office

was getting hold of documents and was leaking them,

certainly to Damien Green,

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