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I had worked for a guy for eight years that I respected who respected the rule of law, who tried to make decisions based on facts, and the person that succeeded him was none of those things.

From the Ted Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Milman.

For 17 years, Debbie Milman has been talking with some of the world's most creative people about what they do, about to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working on.

And now, some of those interviews appear in print, and Debbie's brand new book, Why Design Matters, Conversations with the world's most creative people.

It's coming out in February of this year.

In anticipation of the book, we're releasing interviews from the archives this month.

We thought it would be fun for listeners to hear not only some great interviews, but also to hear how the podcasts have evolved over the years.

So we've been releasing the oldest ones first, and proceeding chronologically.

In October of 2018, Debbie spoke with Pete Sousa about his years as the Obama White House photographer.

I acknowledge I'm not the greatest photographer in the world, but I think I was absolutely the best photographer for this particular situation.

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Pete Sousa has taken photographs for National Geographic, Life Magazine, and other dream outlets for any journalist.

He's covered wars, and he shot covers from magazines, including Newsweek and Fortune.

During the Obama years, he was the chief official White House photographer and his book, Obama, an intimate portrait was an instant number one New York Times best seller.

In 2017, Pete Sousa started posting images of the Obama presidency on Instagram, with captions that indirectly comment on the current occupant of the White House.

He now has over 2 million Instagram followers, and he's just published a new book titled, Shade, A Tale of Two Presidents.

Pete Sousa, Welcome to Design Matters.

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