This episode of Design Matters originally dropped in April of 2024.

Here's the story. At the beginning of a relationship, it's hot and heavy, sparks a fly-in.

But once you lose the spark, you have lost really the only thing worth having.

And your choices are either to accept that sex is no longer for you or to fight to like spice things up to keep the spark alive.

But couples who sustain a strong sexual connection over the long term do not talk about spark.

From the TED Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Milman.

For 19 years, Debbie Milman has been talking with designers and other creative people about what they do,

how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working on.

On this episode, Emily Nagoski talks about the differences between desire and pleasure when it comes to sex.

And then comes the gut punch question of, so what kind of sex is worth wanting?

This is 40-year-old Kathy, mother of two and self-confessed tele addict.

Oh, look at you. That's brilliant. Well done.

This is also Kathy, working as part of a team to keep things calm at her local prison.

Come on.

Listen, speak to me.

And helping someone's son write his first letter home in eight months.

Well done, you should be really proud.

Thank you, Miss.

An extraordinary job done by someone like you.

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