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The Dave Chang Show

'Best of Dave Chang Show': The Glory of Complicated, Simple, Crazy, Beautiful, Stupid Art (and Life), With Jerry Saltz

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Society & Culture, Arts, Food

4.88.6K Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2024

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Summary

Dave is revisiting some of his favorite episodes and interviews for his ‘Best of Dave Chang Show’ series. In this episode, Pulitzer Prize-winning art critic, beloved 'Dave Chang Show' guest, and 'Art is Life' author Jerry Saltz returns to survey the state of art and food in 2022, and deliver a bracing dose of motivation to Dave, Chris, and anyone else out there embarking on a potentially terrifying creative endeavor. Also: ancient DNA, private psyches, Chris Ofili, Laurie Anderson, zombie formalism, the end of linear time, dirty shamans, Jasper Johns, caveman cooking, F. Murray Abraham, Ai Weiwei, 'The Raft of the Medusa,' Dolly Parton, fighting your demons, Neal Brennan, Thomas Kinkade, art vs. craftsmanship, Cy Twombly, Jason Polan, and a Coen Brothers debate. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Jerry Saltz Producers: Sasha Ashall, Jordan Bass, and Victoria Valencia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dave Chang Show part of the Ringo Podcast Network presented by Major Dumb Media.

0:07.4

Thank you a lot tango as always.

0:10.0

I'm back again with the best of, This is part two with our Jerry Salts interviews.

0:15.4

Again, the first best of was Jerry Salts when he came to our podcast in 2019.

0:19.7

This one is from December 2022 when he was on tour promoting Artis Life, his anthology of essays

0:26.7

and reviews that he's done over the years, icons and iconoc class visionaries and

0:30.0

vigilantes and flashes of hope in the night by the Pulitzer Prize winning critic Jerry Salts and if you listen to this

0:36.2

podcast we do plenty of callbacks to Jerry somebody we love very much and again we will get you some new podcast soon I can't tell exactly when but we are working

0:46.0

diligently on really changing things up as we've mentioned over the years and very grateful

0:51.6

for your patience we We are busy doing

0:54.0

dinner time live and a bunch of other TV projects but this

0:57.5

podcast is central to what we do and we just wanted it to update everything

1:02.1

something we never got to do when the world shut down in 2020 and we've made plenty of pivots along the way and we want this to be a long lasting sort of pivot as we move forward.

1:12.0

So before we get in the interview with Jerry Salts,

1:15.0

I wanted to give you some musings and some ramblings.

1:17.0

Number one, New York Times, a couple of weeks ago,

1:20.0

had an article about Pizza being Awesome in America and it didn't give enough of a nod to

1:25.4

Chris Bianco. Again I'm biased she's one of my closest friends and there are other

1:29.4

great pizza makers for sure but Chris isn't just a pizza maker is just a great chef outstanding I think he's won every beard award possible including you know

1:38.6

Outstanding chef in America etc but I wanted to talk about three pizzas of the head, starting off with a pizza that I've had.

1:45.6

Recently, I shared it with Bill Simmons last week, Pizzeria Bianco, downtown Los Angeles

1:50.6

Thoreau. And I don't know if he serves this in his Arizona

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