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As always, Tyler Lori, Chris Smalls, Angelo, here.

This is I think our 17th interview and we've had eight episodes of picking winners,

but 25 episodes Smalls, this is a pretty big deal for us.

We could have been canceled after the first one honestly.

Yeah, we can get canceled at any time.

I think that's what kind of keeps us going, you know?

That's the fuel that kind of fires us.

Any time this could just evaporate into thin air.

Right, so when we get to 25, we want to make a big deal out of it.

We pop a little champagne on this interview.

This week we have Sam Vissini he is a writer for the athletics

specifically for the field house which is their college basketball based site I

think it's run by Seth Davis so Sam works with some pretty heavy hitters at least in our industry and he was a guy that we just kind of reached out to because I see Sam on Twitter all the time and he's a young guy a year younger than me same age of smalls lives in Cali with his girlfriend and was a guy

that was really interesting to hear talk about like how he got kind of market share in

this field as like just a you know sort of a young guy who in grad school was like man I really like

writing about sports and I really enjoyed it because it was different like his you

know talking about breaking down tape as a guy who wasn't really a coach or a player like it was

really different and I also thought his interests were different too and this is kind of what we wanted to say is like for people out there who think that they're you know unique or they're trying to do something like there's always people that their journey can help you and I thought

Sam especially for media people he doesn't consider himself a journalist so I

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