Hey, so I'm re-erring this great episode with Craig Finn because the hold steady

Craig's band has a new album just out. It's amazing and Craig is one of the great

songwriters of our time. He's been on the show twice, once with Tad Kugler's

partner and old steady and once by himself. We went deep on artistic process and on figuring out why you do what you do and then how to do it.

And I think Craig's a brilliant guy it's a real treat

to know him and I hope you enjoy this if you missed it the first time I'll be

back next week with a new episode.

Thanks for listening.

Hey guys, listen, before the podcast starts, look, I'm going to play 30 seconds of this song

God in Chicago right now by Craig Finn today's guest.

Her mom found her brother then she found the container wrapped up in a newspaper

stuffed in a duffel bag with hockey pads and seven grand and rubber bands.

We don't speak at the service, but then later a message from a number that wasn't familiar,

said, hey, it's Charlie's sister.

Would you do me a favor?

There's unfinished business.

It's roughly the size of a baseball.

I said I wasn't totally sure, but but yeah I could probably call someone.

I knew this kid for my dorm when I went to school in Wisconsin.

All right now go and listen to that song because we end up talking about it a lot and I don't want you to I don't want to be talked out for you before you heard it like listen to the song and then come back to the podcast you just just have to flip over on your iPhone,

like it's right there on Spotify or on iTunes.

And so listen to that, God in Chicago.

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