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🗓️ 31 March 2023
⏱️ 91 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hey, it is Ezra. |
0:03.1 | We're doing a rear today, but it's one of my favorite episodes and one that I think |
0:06.7 | has particular relevance right now. |
0:09.1 | Given the stress that politicians like Donald Trump play some political systems, what |
0:13.5 | is the nature of their appeal? |
0:16.5 | This conversation with Pippinoris, getting at her theory of it, is I think particularly |
0:20.3 | compelling because it isn't just about Donald Trump because it puts Donald Trump and politicians |
0:24.7 | like him in a global context where we can look for similarities and see perhaps a little |
0:30.0 | bit more deeply what is going on in the electorates that power them. |
0:33.9 | Take a listen. |
0:40.6 | I'm Ezra Klein. |
0:41.6 | This is the Ezra Conchell. |
0:55.7 | It's easy to look at American politics as aberracial right now. |
1:01.2 | It's comforting in a way. |
1:02.9 | Maybe the whole problem, the whole question is Donald Trump and the unique magnetism |
1:08.6 | and attributes he brings to modern politics. |
1:12.2 | I mean, Trump has many things, but one thing he is distinctive. |
1:16.0 | Once a billionaire or maybe billionaire developer, known for being a businessman, a celebrity |
1:21.0 | reality TV star forever in the tabloids with an unaring sense of what will get people's |
1:26.0 | attention, who is somehow immune to the disciplining force of shame, maybe that's a story right |
1:32.3 | there. |
1:33.3 | The particular package of attributes Donald Trump brings to all this. |
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