Hello, Andrew Harrison here. Hope those turkey sandwiches aren't wearing thin yet. For the latest

in our best of 2025 series of ponds that you might have missed, we address the burning issue

that is top of the agenda for the British public. How would world governments tackle a zombie

uprising? And what would it mean for property prices?

Here's Jacob Jarvis talking to Daniel Dresner, author of Theories of International Politics and Zombies, from back in July.

Like all of our podcasts, it's good for your brains.

Hello. Hello and welcome to The Bunker, your daily dose of news without the nonsense. I'm Jacob Jarvis.

Organised before they rise is one of the key lessons from Max Brooks's zombie survival guide.

The trend of Doomsday prepping is itself on the rise, which I previously spoke about on the bunker, and some people are doing this

because they fear the undead. But is it enough for individuals alone to prepare for the end of days?

With 28 years later, recently coming to cinemas, and Duny Boyle's rage-filled, though not technically

zombie monsters returning to the screen, I thought what better time to discuss how the world

might react to a zombie apocalypse. To that end, I'm joined by Daniel Dresner, author of theories

of international politics and zombies, and professor of international politics at Tufts University. Daniel, thank you so much

for joining me. Happy to. The zombie obsession, Daniel, seems to be on the rise, and movies seem to have

boomed after 9-11. Do you think the world has become more paranoid, and do zombies basically help

us to make sense of that? Yes and yes.

There's a pretty obvious correlation between the rise of movies about the living dead

and general existential fears about the state of the world.

So it's not a coincidence that the sort of low point for zombie cinema was actually the 1990s.

And then in 2001, you had the first Resident Evil film come out.

And then obviously in 2002, 28 days later, was sort of the first zombie film right after 9-11.

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