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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Best of 2025 – Flag Wars – Inside this Summer's political minefield

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 30 December 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

We’re bringing you some of the best Bunkers of the year to tide you over the holidays. Today: Where’s your flag???!? The Cross of St George sprouted across the lamp-posts and roundabouts of Britain this summer. Fans, boosters and grifters claimed it was simple patriotism. Imagine our surprise when it turned out that many behind “Operation Raise The Colours” had far-right associations – who’d have thought it?? Alex von Tunzelmann sat down with Jonn Elledge to find out what flags really mean today. www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Alex von Tunzelmann. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio editors: Robin Leeburn. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Art by James Parrett. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, it's Andrew Harrison here with another of our selection of the best bunkers of 2025, the Ponsier might have missed.

0:10.1

It was, of course, the year of Flagmania, a purely innocent celebration of patriotism that was in no way intended to menace ethnic minorities, divide Britain and intimidate anybody who didn't agree with the far right.

0:22.5

Back in September, as council workers worked all night to repaint a roundabout near you,

0:27.2

our regulars Alex von Tunselman and John Ellage got together to debate flag wars.

0:45.8

Welcome back to The Bunker, News Without the Nonsense, five days a week. I'm Alex von Tanselman.

0:52.0

Now in various places across the British Isles, we've suddenly seen a proliferation of flags.

0:55.4

Union Jacks and St George's crosses, the England flag,

1:01.4

have been appearing on lampposts, hung out of windows, off bridges, painted onto roundabouts in Cornwall.

1:05.7

The locals didn't like that because some of them are not actually that into English identity.

1:12.1

A few saltiers have also appeared in Scotland. As the lower quality of these flags become ragged and stained or turn out to be fire hazards, councils want to remove them, provoking outrage

1:18.0

from those who put them up there in the first place. But is this a spontaneous explosion

1:23.9

of great national pride, or is it something more sinister, linked perhaps to the recent

1:29.1

unrest over refugees, an attempt to pull rank to make outsiders feel unwelcome?

1:35.4

Why is the Prime Minister now appearing in front of a party string of England flags as if the

1:39.8

football is on? And what do flags really mean? To discuss this, I'm joined by a great friend of the bunker,

1:46.2

the brilliant journalist and writer John Ellage. Hi, John. Hello, I am dressed from head to toe

1:52.0

in flags right now. I look like one of those shops on Oxford Street where you suspect is a front

1:57.5

for something. That's wonderful. But, okay, John, to what extent is this all

2:02.8

a storm in a teacup? I mean, it's not, I don't want to underplay it as something worrying

2:11.0

because, like, you were saying, or is something more sinister going on? They said, well, yes, we do

2:15.7

know something more sinister is going on.

2:17.8

We do know that some of the people behind this have been linked to such delightful

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