Best of 2025: Jessica N. Turner on Rising from Grief and Disappointment

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What Fresh Hell: Laughing in the Face of Motherhood

Kids & Family, Comedy, Parenting

4.8 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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To wrap up 2025, we’re re-running some of our favorite guest episodes from this year. When we're faced with difficulties, how can we put them into perspective and move forward? Jessica N. Turner, author of the new book I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER THAN THIS, discusses the experiences that led her to look at life differently and how she has learned to make "imperfect choices." Jessica, Amy, and Margaret discuss: What led Jessica to write this book What Jessica's large online audience of women taught her about grief Strategies for processing grief and disappointment Here's where you can find Jessica: ⁠www.jessicanturner.com⁠ @jessicanturner on IG @TheMomCreative on FB Buy I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER THAN THIS: ⁠https://bookshop.org/a/12099/9781546006718⁠ We love the sponsors that make this show possible! You can always find all the special deals and codes for all our current sponsors on our website: ⁠https://www.whatfreshhellpodcast.com/p/promo-codes/⁠ Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at ⁠www.monarchmoney.com/FRESH Ready to raise money-smart kids? Start now with your first month FREE at acornsearly.com/FRESH! What Fresh Hell is co-hosted by Margaret Ables and Amy Wilson. mom friends, funny moms, parenting advice, parenting experts, parenting tips, mothers, families, parenting skills, parenting strategies, parenting styles, busy moms, self-help for moms, manage kid’s behavior, teenager, toddler, baby, tween, child development, family activities, family fun, parent child relationship, decluttering, kid-friendly, invisible workload, default parent, #betterthanthis, grief, trauma, stages of grief, disappointment Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello of one and welcome to Fresh Take from What Fresh Hell laughing in the face of motherhood. This is Margaret.
0:08.6	And this is Amy. Today we are very happy to welcome back Jessica N. Turner. She is a content creator and
0:15.2	tastemaker for busy moms looking for hacks to live life with more intention and less stress. That sounds like all of us.
0:22.7	That's me. She's here today to tell us about her new book. I thought it would be better than this.
0:28.4	Rise from disappointment, regain control, and rebuild a life you love. Welcome, Jessica.
0:33.9	Thanks so much for having me back, y'all. So you have an incredible story that brought you to this
0:38.9	moment. And this book, it's more about what happens next, right, than the moment. But will you just
0:43.5	share with our listeners a little bit about the life circumstances that brought you to write this book?
0:48.4	Yeah. So in 2019, my husband came out to me. He first told me he was by. Then after six months of going
0:57.6	through marriage counseling and individual therapy for both of us, he told me that he was gay.
1:03.3	And that was in September of 2019. We then really wrestled with could we do a mixed orientation
1:09.2	marriage. I like to say, like,
1:11.3	Matthew and I like genuinely loved each other. We had a full great marriage and all the ways
1:17.0	that one would expect. But it was sort of like that genie was out of the bottle. So we
1:21.9	circled the drain for a while in March of 2020, which you all might remember that month.
1:28.2	I remember that month. Something happened. Yeah. Something happened. And about five days before
1:33.8	that thing happened, he had found an apartment and we were going to separate. And so then
1:39.4	pandemic happens. I'm home from my day job. We decide he's not going to move out. I'm thinking,
1:45.7	oh, maybe things are going to turn out different. And he's going to like decide he wants to stay
1:50.0	married and everything's going to like all of a sudden turn rosy. Well, that didn't happen. And so
1:54.6	in June of 2020, he moved out. We announced our divorce in July of 2020. We both have really
2:00.0	public platforms. We're both authors.
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