Best of 2023: Immunocapitalism w/ Kathryn Olivarius

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4.8 • 588 Ratings

🗓️ 25 December 2023

⏱️ 102 minutes

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As we send off 2023, we’re releasing a series of some of our favorite episodes of the year—including some newly unlocked episodes that have previously only been available to patrons. This episode was originally released for Death Panel patrons on April 3rd, 2023. To support the show and help make episodes like this one possible, become a patron at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod. Original description: Bea speaks with Kathryn Olivarius about the economy and social structure that emerged around yellow fever in antebellum New Orleans, and the ecosystem of deniers, capitalists, and novel theories of "immunity" that echo our current pandemic. Transcript forthcoming. Find Kathryn's book "Necropolis: Disease, Power, and Capitalism in the Cotton Kingdom" here: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674241053 Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism Pre-order Jules' new book here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/733966/a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny-by-jules-gill-peterson/ Death Panel merch here (patrons get a discount code): www.deathpanel.net/merch As always, support Death Panel at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod

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0:00.0	You see unaclimated people for whom it is decidedly against their interest to deny disease and deny the very harsh, very risky, very fatal reality.
0:12.1	It is against their interest to do so. And they do it anyways because it becomes a sort of cultural signifier.
0:17.6	It aligns them with powerful white enslavers. And it aligns them with a sort of status quo white supremacy. It aligns them with this much larger social force. I'm Welcome to the Deaf Panel.
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1:24.1	So I've got a great historian joining me today to talk about yellow fever and the political
1:28.5	economy of disease and risk in 19th century New Orleans.
1:32.2	My guest is Catherine Oliverius, who studies the intersection of slavery, capitalism,
1:36.9	and disease, and teaches at Stanford.
1:39.4	She's the author of the book Necropolis, Disease, Power, and Capitalism in the Cotton
1:43.5	Kingdom that came out
1:44.6	last April from Harvard Press. Catherine, welcome to Death Panel. It's so nice to have you on.
1:49.7	I'm utterly delighted to be here. So your first book, which was awesome and I love Necropolis,
1:55.1	came out about a year ago this month, exactly, actually. And it's a project that you started
2:00.1	long before COVID. It's clearly
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