Bernie Sanders on Capitalism, Class and Freedom
The Owen Jones Podcast
Owen Jones
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🗓️ 8 March 2023
⏱️ 38 minutes
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On his big visit to Britain, I met Bernie Sanders and we had a lot to chat about: capitalism, about working class struggle, personal freedom, the 4 day week, how we can all do our bit to change the world - and what he thinks about the UK Labour party's direction.
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| 0:00.0 | So what follows is an interview I did with Bernie Sanders, which was a massive honor. |
| 0:04.3 | The guy obviously you've had a huge impact, not just on the US left, but I would say the left globally as well. |
| 0:09.8 | So I did this event in Oxford live. |
| 0:12.4 | It was with Guardian Live who do this incredible series of talks online, people in conversation with just incredible figures. |
| 0:20.8 | Do check them out. You can check out Guardian Live on YouTube, Instagram, also check out the link I've put in the bio for this. |
| 0:27.6 | But I'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments. Here he is, the great man himself, Bernie Sanders. |
| 0:40.6 | Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to this Guardian Live with me, Owen Jones, not for many of us. |
| 0:47.6 | Tonight is a bit like watching The Beatles Live. |
| 0:51.6 | Bernie Sanders and, crucially, the movement around him, not me, us, of course, as his slogan goes, transformed US politics. |
| 1:00.6 | Back in 2016, a cozy corporate consensus was blown apart. |
| 1:06.6 | It was supposed to be a coronation for the most powerful political family in the United States. |
| 1:12.6 | But a generation of younger people had a slightly different idea. |
| 1:16.6 | They had been raised to believe that there was no alternative to free market capitalism. |
| 1:22.6 | But then they heard another message that had different United States. |
| 1:26.6 | One run in the interest of the people not elites could be built. |
| 1:30.6 | The impact of that movement will be felt for decades to come. |
| 1:35.6 | And I firmly believe that its greatest achievements are still to come. |
| 1:41.6 | Now, he's here to talk about his new book. It's OK to be angry about capitalism. |
| 1:47.6 | If he's opening a dress, please give the applause he deserves for Senator Bernie Sanders. |
| 2:12.6 | Bernie, I just want to start this book, I read it in one sitting, brilliant book. |
| 2:17.6 | Now, the title, it's OK to be angry about capitalism. |
| 2:20.6 | When I was studying here in the city a while ago now, one of the things we studied was this idea of US exceptionalism. |
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