Hello, hello. This is another repost for those who haven't heard this particular podcast before,

as this is in preparation for my conversation between Bernardo Castro, Donald Hoffman, Susan Snyder,

and Marcus Gabriel on January 9th, 2023 at the Institute for Arts and Ideas.

Apologies for my deep and somewhat intimate voice here, as I am working on some projects arduously and I woke up at around

2.30 a.m. and couldn't get back to sleep. So just decided to record this now and my wife is sleeping

in the next room. So this week, in particular, mid-December 2022, I, Kurt Jiamengel, am moving into an in-person office hiring a full-time editor

for Toe as well as an assistant. In translation, this means thanks to your support, Toe is going

to be putting out far more content with even higher quality, even more in depth, more research,

as I'm able to spend the 100 hours a week or so that I spend on tow

on the actual parts that aid tow and aid the podcast quality, as well as many projects for the

future that aren't just podcast-based. Thank you so much. If you'd like to contribute, then visit

patreon.com slash kurtjimungle. Well, you can look up how to spell my name from the title of the podcast, or you can visit patreon.com slash Kurt Jymungle. Well, you can look up how to spell my name from the title of the

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visit the links in the description.

Now onto the podcast with Bernardo Castro, which was recorded in early 2021, how time flies.

I'm revealing myself more now to you than I have ever done in an interview.

Thank you, man.

It's been quite an experience.

I'm grateful to you.

It's not been a usual interview. I give two, two, three, four interviews per week, and usually it's the same thing.

And this has not been that. So I'm grateful to you. Thanks a lot.

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