Welcome everybody to a special jureau episode of the cycling tips podcast.

I'm Kayle Frets and it's Wednesday, May 19th,

just about, ooh an hour or so after that crazy Stradabianki white gravel roads of Tuscany stage wrapped up at the

Giro. We had a ton of geece movement we had a bit of controversy perhaps within

the couldn't quick step and so we decided to put together a short special episode

for you all.

We've got Dane Cash on the line as always.

How are you Dane?

Yeah, doing good.

Looking forward to this chat.

And Abby.

Welcome, Abby. Hello. And Ronan, Ronan.

I am.

I am.

I am. Could only be good after watching the stage like that.

Right, right, it was a fantastic stage.

It was a, you know, in the last episode of the podcast,

which only went up like yesterday, we talked about whether gravel belongs in grand tours and in stage racing.

I think that was a pretty emphatic yes, that was exceptional racing.

As we said before, you know, there's a line there.

It could certainly be a bit too much sometimes if the surface isn't good for road bikes,

but that surface is fine for road bikes.

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