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#BERLIN. DISAPPOINTING MERZ. JUDY DEMPSEY, SENIOR SCHOLAR, CARNEGIE ENDOWMENT FOR INTERNATIONAL PEACE IN BERLIN.

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 7 May 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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#BERLIN. DISAPPOINTING MERZ. JUDY DEMPSEY, SENIOR SCHOLAR, CARNEGIE ENDOWMENT FOR INTERNATIONAL PEACE IN BERLIN.
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0:00.0

This is CBS, I on the World.

0:06.4

I'm John Batchel.

0:07.4

A surprise in Deutschland.

0:10.4

I welcome Judy Dempsey, the senior scholar for the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace based in Berlin.

0:17.4

The news is in short form, Friedrich Merz fails an initial vote to become Germany's chancellor.

0:25.5

Shockwaves immediately.

0:27.4

When I saw the news this morning, I thought immediately of Judy's first remark when Friedrich Mertz's name came forward some time ago as a man who would be king.

0:38.5

Judy, my memory is, you said he's wanted it his whole life.

0:43.1

He believes that Merkel blocked him and he stepped away from politics, but now the

0:48.3

path is open.

0:49.9

He wants it and he'll get it.

0:52.1

And maybe so, however, he wanted it too much.

0:55.8

The subhead, markets hit after shock setback to prospective leader.

1:01.4

We need to do some mechanics here, Judy, because I understood that he had the votes to be named

1:07.6

Chancellor and the Bundestag.

1:09.0

We know the negative votes after the is negative and the smaller parties are negative.

1:14.7

But he has the CDU.

1:17.1

He has the subset of the CSU.

1:19.8

He has the SPD.

1:21.5

That's the socialist.

1:22.8

He has all those votes.

1:24.0

I add them all up and that's a lot of votes.

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