We're back with our last retro replay. There's cheeto and toe tattoos, then on with the show. If you like the show, you can support us at https://www.patreon.com/deconversion. Karen and Bonnie go through the lives and miracle healing powers of Kathrine Kuhlman and Benny Hill, no, Hinn. Are people really getting cured of cancer and broken backs and whatnot and various sundries? Why are all the people falling backwards when they get healed? And how in the world are these wheeler healers getting their own television shows when we don't have one? Karen starts out with one of the best-known faith healers, Katherine Kuhlman. You might have never heard of her, but she birthed a whole litter of these guys. She was elegant and magnetic and also talked in a creepy voice. She had her share of scandals, but we must say, being a divorced woman evangelist in the 60s with your own show isn't bad.  Bonnie gets in to someone who followed Kuhlman, idolized her, studied her--Benny Hinn. You've seen him on television. He's the one people roll their eyes at when he makes a swath of people fall out on stage.  Hinn got caught with televangelist Paula White a few years ago while in Italy. They denied it. Then they didn't. Then they downplayed it. We don't care. At least the Kardashians admit their vice. Hinn's nephew, Costi Hinn, has come out with a book. It's mainly for Christians, but it says all the things most people know. This is about money and power. Mentioned on podcast: Josiah Hesse's Vice article about Jim Bakker. Do you have 3 minutes? Please rate us and even review us on iTunes. It's how we get in front of more people. Thanks.