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The Times Tech Podcast

Benedict Evans: “What Chat GPT is - and isn’t”

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2022

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on analyst Benedict Evans to talk about Chat GPT and machine learning (5:00), how it gets things wrong (10:00), the “fluent bullshit” problem (12:00), whether this is a genuine breakthrough moment (15:20), what this means for humans (18:25), “prompt engineering” (23:00), humans as curators rather than creators (26:40), tech’s mid-life crisis (27:45), the future of “search” (32:10), using AI do make “no-code” software (35:00), where we go from here (39:00), and the illusion of creativity (42:45).

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0:00.0

Yo! Technology. What is it all about?

0:04.4

I would say a larger portion of people in AI think that this is a little bit like looking at

0:09.7

the Wright Brothers Flyer and saying, oh my God, this thing might go into orbit.

0:14.1

To which the answer from the aircraft engineers would be, we don't know if it's theoretically

0:19.4

possible to go into orbit.

0:21.5

But presuming it is, it's not going to happen with canvas wings and two horsepower propeller

0:26.3

engines. It would need to be some totally other thing. Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley, your weekly dispatch from behind the scenes and inside the minds of the top people in tech.

0:50.0

Before we get into today's show, I have a request. Please press pause. Take a moment and give a rating,

0:59.0

or even better, a review of this pod. You know, it's Christmas. These ratings and reviews are

1:05.9

really helpful and boosting us up the ratings and getting other people to find out about the show.

1:11.3

So if you could take a moment, it's a giving season.

1:14.7

Do that for me as a favor.

1:17.0

That would be fantastic.

1:18.7

But now, let's get to the show.

1:21.4

You will have all heard of this by now.

1:23.8

Chat GPT.

1:25.8

It was released about a week ago by OpenAI i it's this chat bot and it has kind of

1:30.9

blown people's minds here's a couple quotes just to give you a kind of a flavor of what people

1:36.2

are saying this is aaron levy who's the founder of box he said quote chat gptt is one of those

1:41.7

rare moments in technology where you see a glimmer of how everything is going to be different going forward.

1:49.1

Someone else simply said, quote, Google is done.

1:53.5

Because, of course, you can ask this thing and it will give you the answer just in plain English to exactly what you're asking.

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