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The Times Tech Podcast

Akili's Eddie Martucci: "The world's first prescription video game"

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Eddie Martucci, co-founder and chief executive of Akili Interactive, to talk about making the first prescription video game (3:40), the original pitch (6:10), sweeping the floors of his parents’ pharmacy (13:20), how he landed on video games as medicine (16:40), why ADHD is more present that it used to be (19:00), targeting a “weak link” in the brain (24:00), how the game algorithmically hones it treatment to each player (27:55), targeting conditions like depression and MS (29:40), getting insurance and health systems to pay for it (33:00), looking abroad (43:30), and running a public company (46:40).

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0:00.0

Hey guys, before we get to today's show, just a quick programming note. This is the last

0:06.0

episode of 2022. I'll be taking the next couple weeks off to kind of recharge, hang out with

0:11.3

kids, eat too much food, open some presents, etc. Or actually watch my kids open some presents.

0:17.5

But I digress. But I want to take a moment to thank you for listening for all the ratings and reviews, for the downloads.

0:24.1

You know, I've been doing this pod for over five years now.

0:27.0

And we are rapidly closing in on 300 episodes, which is pretty amazing given that we started this as a bit of an experiment.

0:35.0

So thank you all for listening.

0:36.9

I really appreciate it.

0:37.9

And as I hope you can tell, I really enjoy doing it.

0:40.4

Also wanted to give a big shout out to producer Daisy for making sure the pods sound good and show up on time.

0:48.0

Week in, week out.

0:48.8

She is a true pro.

0:50.2

And you are all the beneficiaries.

0:52.9

So thank you, Daisy.

0:54.9

Anyhow, I hope you managed to get to get some rest and relaxation in over the holidays.

0:59.6

The pod will be back in the first week of Jan.

1:03.8

But now let's get to the last show of 2022.

1:08.3

Here it is.

1:09.7

Yo, technology. What is it all about?

1:14.0

The world is now competing for our brain power in a really intense way.

1:20.2

Social media is a horrible example and instantiation of that.

1:24.1

So I think we're basically just in like a cognitive overload in society. So to me, it

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