Hi, I'm Dr. Amy Robbins and welcome to life, death, and the Space Between podcast.

I'm a clinical psychologist and medium, and here we explore life, death, consciousness, and what it all means.

Today on the show we have Christy Huggstead.

She is the author of Beneath the Surface, a teen's guide to reaching out when you or your friend is in crisis. Ever since her husband

completed suicide in 2012, after years of struggling with clinical depression, by running in front of a train,

she has dedicated her life to helping abolish the stigma of mental illness and suicide.

A certified grief recovery specialist and grief and loss facilitator for recovering addicts

at South Coast Behavioral Health, Christy frequently speaks at high schools.

She is also the host of the Grief Girl podcast and lives in Orange County, California.

Welcome, Christy, to the show today.

Thank you so much for having me.

My pleasure to be here.

Thank you for being here.

So I know that you lost your

husband to a really sort of devastate, I mean, suicide's always devastating, but I, you know,

I heard your story and the story you told that he stepped in front of a train. It was a train

that your father-in-law was on as he was kind of coming to

try to help him. And, you know, I think people can have these experiences and it can either

take them to the depths of despair permanently or they figure out a way to make meaning. And you've really figured out a way to make

meaning out of his tragic circumstances. Can you speak to that a little bit? Well, absolutely.

You know, I remember being in bed one morning and I thought, you know, I'm really tired of feeling this way.

I'm tired of feeling depressed and dark.

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