Welcome to the Bullwork Podcast on the day after the

Arrayment of the former president.

It is April 5, 2023.

Quite a show yesterday, as I wrote in my newsletter this morning, this was the man

and fool from the sulking defendant and the doc to the seething victim who aired all

of his grievances and that bizarre diatribe to the faithful at Mar-o-Lago.

But for the first time in American history, a former president of the United States was

arrested, read his Miranda rights, reigned on felony charges.

So that was new, but we're going to have to work through exactly what it means, how we

got here, what's about to happen, and somewhere in my youth or childhood, I must have done

something good.

As I'm joined today on this historic day by Ben Wittis at Adorun Chief at Lawfare.

Ben, thank you so much for coming back on the podcast.

There is nowhere I would rather be.

I have only done two media appearances on this other than the Lawfare podcast itself,

and they are back to back you and Preep Barara, and that is a mark of my respect for you

both.

That's why I dropped the Julie Andrews Sound of Music line on you there.

I hope you caught that reference, because I know that Tim Miller would not have got it,

since he's never heard of Sound of Music.

I don't think I don't think he's ever watched it.

Yeah, he pretends not to.

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