Ben Thompson explains TikTok, Trump and China

Channels with Peter Kafka

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Technology, Tv & Film, Business News, News

4.4 • 585 Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2020

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Stratechery’s Ben Thompson sits down with Recode’s Peter Kafka to unpack what Oracle's proposed TikTok deal actually means, and why removing China's oversight is a good idea. Featuring: Ben Thompson (@benthompson) author and founder of Stratechery Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to a bonus episode of RICO Media with me, Peter Kafka.
0:05.9	We haven't spent a lot of time in this show talking about TikTok really at all.
0:10.0	And we haven't weighed in at all on Trump and China and TikTok and bite dance and Oracle and Walmart and Microsoft.
0:16.9	So let's change that.
0:18.4	This is a discussion with Ben Thompson, the author, the very successful, very influential
0:22.5	strategyary newsletter.
0:24.5	I hope I pronounced that correctly this time around.
0:27.2	As most of you know, Ben is one of the best minds in tech analysis, and he's also a rare
0:31.2	tech mind with a good understanding of China, in part because he lives in Taiwan, which means
0:36.4	he's a perfect guy to explain what has and hasn't
0:38.7	been going on with TikTok and bite dance at China and the U.S. and Microsoft and Oracle and what all this
0:43.5	means.
0:44.8	It's worth noting that Ben is not a Donald Trump fan, but he does agree with Donald Trump, or at least
0:50.1	Donald Trump's circle last month, that TikTok should be 100% owned by a U.S.
0:55.1	company and failing that should be banned in the U.S.
0:57.3	And he explains why at the end of our conversation.
1:00.7	This was supposed to be a brief chat and it would appear as part of tomorrow's regular
1:04.5	Recode Media episode, which is awesome.
1:06.9	But Ben went long, so you get more Ben today.
1:11.0	One of the really cool parts about my job, probably the best part, is that I get to learn a lot of stuff by asking questions to smart people.
1:16.7	And when I write stories, sometimes I pass off their thoughts as my own.
1:20.5	But on podcasts, you get to hear it straight from their brains unfiltered.
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