Ben Standings with us because he's our team insider and because we had a big story yesterday,

normally with us on Monday and Friday, but with us right now.

I think you and I pretty much predicted this a week ago when we heard it on Wednesday that

Jaden was out for the giant game, and we thought the coach was kind of telegraphing what was to come, but what was your

reaction and what have you learned about why this shutdown?

Yeah, can't say it's a surprise.

We obviously had a passionate debate among the people before Jaden came back to play against the Vikings,

or whether he should play or whether he shouldn't play.

And I stand by that call to say, hey, with five games to go,

there's still plenty of time.

You need to work, all that stuff.

But then when, you know, the randomness that he lands on the elbow,

takes him out of that game. And basically the lands on the elbow takes him out of that game.

And basically the moment that Dan Quinn took him out of that game,

a signal to me that they were, you know, getting close to saying enough to enough and moving on. So he's still not cleared for contact according to Quinn.

You know, my sense was that he was dealing with like a pain tolerant situation.

You know, they have said there was no structural damage, you know, nothing's really changed.

So it sounds like it was a bit of a pain situation.

Now, Jane said he wants to play, but obviously Quinn is saying that.

We're going to call it here.

And, you know,

again, I think it had reached a point even though when he said last week, Dan Quinn, that, you know,

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