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Welcome to Sky Talkers. Here are your hosts, Charlotte and Caitlin. Hello and welcome to Sky Talkers. Here are your hosts, Charlotte and Caitlin.

Hello and welcome to Sky Talkers. I'm your host Charlotte.

Hey everyone. I'm your other host, Caitlin. And welcome to this week's episode of Sky Talkers,

where we're coming to you with some breaking news, which is not normal for us.

We don't usually... But this isn't normal.

This isn't normal. This is so beyond abnormal that we, guys, you know what was supposed to come out this week?

Our conversation on mortis in the Clone Wars, that's how paramount this breaking news was that

we were like, you know, I hate to do it.

But we got to bump Mortis. That's when you know

it's real. It's so big. Okay. So just to date where we are in time, because who knows how this

conversation is going to evolve, we are recording this on Tuesday, October 21st, 2025.

And this news broke last night around 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, October 20th, 2025.

I feel like dates are really important when we're talking about things as big as this.

Okay. So I just want to date us. And I'm sure you've seen it from the headline.

Everyone's talking about it online. Of course, you your local, Ben Solo, Kylo Rendemption,

stands have to weigh in. And that's us. And we are your local stands.

Your local retired, Raylo's. Not retired. It's been retired on the podcast. I'm not retired.

I'm not retired. But I just mean we haven't, I was typing up some notes for us last

night to talk about. Caitlin, I think last episode, I just talked about Ben Solo the entire, like, for a long period of time. I like, I can't. It's like, I've, I've truly kind of blacked out for the last 24 hours. And then the previous episode, too, it's like, the last time we talked about Ben's solo. Caitlin, I bring it up all the time.

I know we do, but it just feels, this feels so different.

You know what I mean?

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