Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran, doing soul cycles six times a week to lose weight for your upcoming reunion tour, or else a scrappy upstart, trying to cut down to five pre-concert whiskeys.

This is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the second Friday of November 24, and I thank you for joining us.

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