I'm Pastor Mike Winger and this is Bible Thinker the program dedicated to thinking

biblically about everything. It is good to be with you today I'm Mike Winger and we're going to talk right now about an Orthodox Jew and a Catholic Bishop who had a conversation about the future destiny of the Orthodox Jew.

Let me explain what happened.

It was actually Ben Shapiro, who most of you

are probably familiar with.

Certainly more people know him than know me or Robert Barron

for that matter. More people know him. But Ben Shapiro, you know, he's a commentator, a conservative commentator

and activist. You can check him out on the daily wire

dot com and he's also an Orthodox Jew a lot of people don't realize this but

Ben Shapiro is very strong in his Jewish beliefs he's very very serious about his Jewish beliefs. He's very, very serious about his Jewish religion and he had a

conversation in interview with Bishop Robert Barron recently and he's the auxiliary

Bishop of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles.

He's written many books.

He's like a religion correspondent for NBC and he's, you know, he's well known.

He's got his whole YouTube channel with lots of subs and he's got over a

million followers on Facebook and he sort of is to some people one of the faces of

the Catholic Church and so a question was asked by Ben Shapiro of this particular gentleman and the question was hey

Am I am I going to heaven from a Catholic perspective and so what we're gonna do do is we're going to look at the

question that been asked we're going to look at the the answer that Bishop

Baron gave and then we're going to step three we're going to look at the biblical

answer which I think Ben would want to hear because Ben

he's very much like I'm with Ben on this like he's like hey and you can just tell me what you think

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