Trump is telling a story. It's a pretty, you know, he's tapping into pretty deep currents in

American history and not good ones. What are we tapping into in response? And how can we use words?

And you can't do this in an op-ed. You can't, speeches are distinct. And they are where we build a

connection with an audience that can become a

movement that can change things and and I think we're going to need that to get out of this.

Hi everyone. Welcome to the Best People podcast. My guest this week is truly one of my favorite people.

He's a familiar face to millions of Americans

as he helps us on a near daily basis

to make sense of Donald Trump's most dangerous moves on the world stage.

Largely viewed as having a mind meld with former President Barack Obama.

He's also one of the architects of some of the most successful and significant foreign policy achievements in recent history,

notably the Obama administration's Iran nuclear deal.

Now he is an author, a best-selling author, and the co-host of the podcast, Pod Save the World,

an indispensable guide to the great global unraveling that Donald Trump has unleashed.

In his brand new book, All We Say, Ben looks at 15 important speeches in history

in order to tackle one of the biggest, most enduring questions in American history and politics.

What does it mean to be an American?

So this is the best people, and this is Ben Rose.

Hi, my friend.

Hey, Nicole, I'm so excited to be doing this.

It's so funny, we get to see each other in passing.

So to have some time to really chat with you is I've been looking forward to this one.

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