Ben Huebner on Privacy and Civil Liberties at the CIA

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🗓️ 1 June 2019

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

The U.S. intelligence community is, by design, shrouded in secret, but it is ultimately responsible to the public. So how do intelligence agencies balance competing interests in protecting privacy and civil liberties, ensuring transparency and accountability, and safeguarding the country’s most sensitive secrets? To shed light on the subject, on Friday, Brookings hosted a conversation between Ben Huebner, Privacy and Civil Liberties Officer at the CIA, and Brookings Federal Executive Fellow Ryan Trapani, who previously served as a spokesman for the agency, who discussed how the CIA handles that dynamic. They talked about the job of the CIA’s privacy and civil liberties officers; the legal and regulatory regime that governs how the agency collects, handles, and uses data; and the privacy and security considerations that agency employees manage every day.

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0:25.6	no bull and the aftermath.
0:33.9	It goes back to the founding of the country itself.
0:36.4	Think about the reasons for the revolution, right?
0:38.7	It was British soldiers coming into American's homes and taking information.
0:43.9	It was the stamp act.
0:45.2	It was the quartering, right?
0:47.7	This is literally who we are is to think about this.
0:51.4	And that is always true.
0:52.6	That is true for Americans.
0:53.8	That is true for the Americans who happen to be CIA officers.
0:56.7	This privacy and civil liberties, this is not a tack on.
1:00.4	This is not an addition of a thing that we do.
1:02.7	This is not a thing that takes away from mission.
1:05.5	Collecting for an intelligent information against those threats and a way that protects privacy
1:10.6	and civil liberties is the mission.
1:13.4	It is how we define what it is to be an intelligence officer.
1:16.2	It is what makes a CIA officer different from a Russian SVR officer.
1:22.9	I'm Matthew Khan and this is the LawFair podcast June 1st, 2019.
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