Ben Goertzel: Why AGI Could Arrive Within Five Years

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Curt Jaimungal

Physics, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science

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🗓️ 4 April 2023

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Ben Goertzel argues artificial general intelligence will arrive within five years via three distinct pathways. He explores definitions of intelligence, self‑transcendence, the three routes to AGI, future hardware, and the societal impact of super‑AGI.- 00:00:00 - Introduction- 00:02:37 - How to make machines that think like people- 00:10:03 - GPT will make 95% of jobs obsolete- 00:18:59 - The 5-year Turing test- 00:21:37 - Definition of "intelligence" doesn't matter- 00:26:15 - Mathematical definition of self-transcendence- 00:30:10 - The 3 routes to AGI- 00:44:19 - Unfolding AI with Galois connections- 00:49:32 - Neuromorphic chips, hybrid architectures, and future hardware- 00:54:05 - Super AGI will overshadow humanity- 00:56:33 - Infinity groupoid- 01:01:52 - There are no limitations to AI development- 01:05:00 - Social intelligence is independent in OpenCog Hyperon systems- 01:07:33 - Embodied collaboration is fundamental to human intelligence- 01:08:49 - Algorithmic information theory and the Robot College TestSPONSORS:- Brilliant: 20% off https://brilliant.org/TOE- TOE Website (early access to episodes): https://theoriesofeverything.org/- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal- Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE- PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast...- Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b9...- Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeveryt...RESOURCES:- Center for future mind (FAU): https://www.fau.edu/future-mind/- Wolfram talk from Mindfest https://youtu.be/xHPQ_oSsJgg- Singularity Net https://singularitynet.io/ Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. SPONSOR: I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE FOLLOW: Substack | Spotify | YouTube | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	AGI in five years or something from now.
0:03.0	What's cool is how uncontroversial these statements are in so many circles are now, right?
0:09.0	We will have massively superhuman AGI that will exceed humans in essentially every respective intelligence.
0:16.0	So I mean, I think what happens to human society during that transitional phase is very nasty and difficult.
0:24.6	Today we talk about large language models, artificial general intelligence, and merging with machines.
0:30.6	Ben Gorsal is a computer scientist, a mathematician, and an entrepreneur.
0:33.6	He's the founder and CEO of Singularity Net and his work focuses on AGI which
0:39.0	aims to create truly intelligent machines that can learn, reason, and think like humans. This was
0:44.6	another talk that was conducted at the Center for the Future Mind at the Mindfest Conference
0:48.8	at the beautiful beach of Florida Atlantic University. Expect to hear more discussions on AI by speakers like Gortzel.
0:56.4	Gortzel will also appear with David Chalmers on an upcoming episode, as well as David Chalmers on his own,
1:01.8	as well as Wolfram on his own, as a part two to the lecture that he's already given. Part one for
1:06.9	Wolfram is listed here. This will occur over the next few days and weeks on the The theories of everything channel. As usual, links to all are in the description. I would like to
1:15.0	thank Susan Schneider, Professor of Philosophy, because this conference would not have occurred
1:19.7	without her spearheading it, without her foresight, without her inviting theories of everything as
1:24.3	the exclusive filmer of the event as well as we're going to host a panel that will be on later with David Chalmers and Susan Schneider.
1:30.3	I also would like to thank Brilliant for being able to defer some of the traveling costs.
1:34.3	Brilliant is a place where there are bite-sized interactive learning experiences for science, engineering, and mathematics.
1:40.3	Artificial intelligence in its current form uses machine learning, which uses
1:44.2	neural nets, often at least, and there are several courses on Brilliant's websites,
1:48.3	teaching you the concepts underlying neural nets and computation in an extremely intuitive manner
1:54.0	that's interactive, which is unlike almost any of the tutorials out there. They quiz you. I personally
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