I'm very excited to have a returning guest, a good friend of mine, Ben Dominic, who runs

the Federalist, which is one of the preeminent conservative news outlets on the web today.

Ben, thanks for taking the time to come in and God bless America, sir.

Thank you, Michael.

It's always a pleasure to join you, and I'm sure that you will be devil me with questions.

I do want to say to your credit that I am sitting surrounded by all of these different books

in this office that I have not yet put together after a move.

But after your remarks the other day, I did dig out my copy of the Machiavellians, and

I commit myself to rereading it.

I have to read all these different books for interviews and things like that with the

Federalist and with Fox, but because I tried to read the books, but I have not read the

Machiavellians in a long time, and I need to revisit it.

So for those who don't know, I had been asked and also Curtis Yarvin independently had been

asked, what's the one book that they would recommend everyone to read in politics?

That book is the Machiavellians.

It's a 1943 book by James Burnham, who is a national review writer, which describes the

Italian school, which regards politics as basically just a rationalization of the power

lead asserting dominance over the populist, which brings me to my next question.

How do you see the Federalist and its relationship to the National Review both currently and

historically, and why do you guys exist at all if we have an outlet such as the National

Review and other such publications?

Well, I mean, that's a big question, because I think, and I was actually talking about

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