Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show with your host Eric Mataxis.

Hey there folks welcome to the Eric Mataxis show.

This is a show on playing the role of Eric Mataxis and fortunately for you I have a

real guest playing himself. Remember Dr. Ben Carson from a presidential

administration. He was a neurosurgeon, brain surgeon and he's my guest. He's my

friend. I'm thrilled to have you. Dr. Carson, Ben Carson, Secretary Carson,

welcome. Thank you so much. I'm always delighted to be with you. You

amaze me on many levels. Let me start there that you're the person that my

wife often compares me to and I want you to know I hate you for that. How I hate

you because you're so calm. You're calm enough to do you know 24 hours

straight operating on people's brains and I'm just I'm not that calm you know

you're like a lion and I'm like a mongoose or something like that so so the

other day we we both spoke at the corn palace at the Frank speech thing and I

had to follow you and I thought it's never good following Ben Carson because

you're so calm you're like the pericomo of brain surgeons. There's nobody

calmer than you so anyway you're calm but if you kind of operate on brains I

think it's it's important to become so I'm just I'm just working out. I wasn't

I wasn't always calm. Well that's see that's the issue and that's my wife and I

talk about it because we read your book. Why don't you listen a lot of people know

you as this famous Christian famous brain surgeon and then now you know

the former secretary to the president of the United States but some people don't

know the early part of your life. It is an amazing story we don't really have

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