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We couldn't do it without you. And the Hello and welcome to Blabering the Point. I'm your host Kate Riga and I'm lucky enough to be joined today by our own Josh Kavinsky who's here to tell us what it's like to be on the inside of the Trump trials.

Josh, welcome.

Thanks for coming on.

Thanks for having to be on, Kate.

So let's just start with kind of set the scene for us.

Like, when do you get there in the morning do you have a little routine you know what's it like

inside what can you see from the room where you're sitting just take us inside with you

sure so I get there usually around 6 a.m. basically because

there yeah so that's kind of rough. I mean the issue is is that there are a

limited number of spaces in the courthouse.

There are two rooms where you can watch a child from and they're both on an upper floor of the courthouse

beyond a secret service kind of cordon. So to in, you have to go through the regular sort of security

that you go in to get into any courthouse

and then you go up to this like kind of upper floor

and there's a whole separate ring of security

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