self-development. I used to think it was like so cheesy and like lame because I was just I was like naturally motivated.

I've never needed someone to like tell me to work hard. I just did it because I was like oh that's what you do.

You just fucking work harder than the next person,

and you're gonna make a lot of money.

Makes sense to me.

But yeah, but like, I guess talk to me about your personal development journey.

Have you always been wired like this? Did you buy a course? Did you have a

coach? Did you have an awakening? Like, yeah, good question. Okay, so I did, I'll preface this. I definitely like personal development. I always like saw knowledge. I was always curious.

But what really shifted for me, I did network. Have you ever done network marketing is like

MLM? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone calls them pyramid schemes. So I did one of those in college. And all they did was

teach us personal development. They're like buy this book, watch this video, do this, do this, do that.

Watch this guy, watch the speech, watch this, watch this, and I started like realizing that I could seek

education that was for at least for business and for life and for mentality

was going to serve me a lot more than the college that I was in. I still finished school.

But I probably spent 20 hours a week plus watching personal development videos.

People like Jim Rone, Les Brown, Brian Tracy.

I mean, what can I remember his name from the secret

Robin's no not I mean Tony Robbins too yeah I forgot his name but anyways like all

these people right and I read all these books like thinking grow rich and Robert kioski's books and all these things yeah

and I really got into that world then I started understanding how valuable was so that was like phase one that was like free info.

Yep then as I got into business I started realizing hey dude,

I know there's a lot of like crap online that people are selling,

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